tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post8988547213148041872..comments2024-03-09T04:57:25.956+00:00Comments on HardKnott Dave's blog about stuff: Gordian KnottAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11319272987951077205noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-60628389389701832312014-08-18T19:15:15.716+01:002014-08-18T19:15:15.716+01:00I'm not a beer writer. And of course Mr Viveur...I'm <b>not</b> a beer writer. And of course Mr Viveur doesn't have to <i>enjoy</i> the "craft" malarkey, but that doesn't mean it isn't a live topic in the beer business. Now if I <i>was</i> a beer writer, I'd probably try to think of something original, or at least interesting, to say about it from time-to-time. There's only so much you can say about the actual beer, innit? StringersBeerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12573068197944669997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-74973763024737988522014-08-18T13:03:23.717+01:002014-08-18T13:03:23.717+01:00We're all beer writers.
And we've seen, ...We're all beer writers. <br /><br />And we've seen, first-hand, the proportion of beer writing taken up with the crafturbation debate over the last few years.<br /><br />It is insane. Absolutely fucking insane.<br /><br />Yes, there's a debate there to be had and occasionally it's vaguely interesting and thought-provoking. I've written on the topic myself. With restraint. <br /><br />But it's become an obsession for a whole lot of people who could otherwise be writing about the *beer*, whether or not they enjoy it. <br /><br />Enough is enough is enough! (Unless you all genuinely enjoy having the same circular arguments, in which case, carry on!)Ben Viveurhttp://www.benviveur.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-28068587000559587342014-08-14T12:38:54.017+01:002014-08-14T12:38:54.017+01:00Well Stringers, I get the point of the post you li...Well Stringers, I get the point of the post you link to. Indeed, for some drinkers they really do care whether or not the beer they are drinking is, or is not craft, sometimes it seems much more than considering the actually flavours themselves.<br /><br />For you and me we would be silly not to consider the whole craft debate, it has a direct affect on our businesses.<br /><br />For drinkers like Ben Viveur the arguments get in the way sometimes of their simple enjoyment of good beer. I'd say he has a perfect right to put himself outside of the discussion if that is where he feels most comfortable.<br /><br />Besides, I'm really pleased he enjoyed the beer.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11319272987951077205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-14750339129376270792014-08-14T12:07:54.577+01:002014-08-14T12:07:54.577+01:00I'm sure the beer's lovely, but I'd re...I'm sure the beer's lovely, but I'd refer <i>Ben Viveur</i> to <a href="http://stringersbeer.blogspot.co.uk/2012/01/craft-oh-for-goodness-sake-2.html" rel="nofollow">this</a>StringersBeerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12573068197944669997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-4753154717335345272014-08-13T11:19:04.815+01:002014-08-13T11:19:04.815+01:00The beer tasted great at the GBBF last night, so I...The beer tasted great at the GBBF last night, so I don't really care if some wanker considers it 'craft' or not!Ben Viveurhttp://benviveur.blogspot.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-28849471947344322452014-08-09T21:02:53.766+01:002014-08-09T21:02:53.766+01:00That's because I refuse to use them emoticon t...That's because I refuse to use them emoticon things :pAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11319272987951077205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-14213612674761928062014-08-09T20:57:43.099+01:002014-08-09T20:57:43.099+01:00I can never tell when you're joking Dave.I can never tell when you're joking Dave.StringersBeerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12573068197944669997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-89361432274901147182014-08-09T20:07:05.828+01:002014-08-09T20:07:05.828+01:00Ed. ****Goes to Tesco and buys grapefruit juice***...Ed. ****Goes to Tesco and buys grapefruit juice*****<br /><br />Thanks Tandy, see you Monday night.<br /><br />Stringers, I think it would be unfair to call Brains a puppet brewery. Just because they agreed to let me put loads of hops in their beer and got them to do a full lab assay on samples. And they put me up for the night. And promoted my brand on their pump clip. It wasn't all one way you know, I gave something back.<br /><br />Liam, no, fairly sure it's just called liquor, even before any liquor treatment.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11319272987951077205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-18581021252502702032014-08-09T14:22:27.625+01:002014-08-09T14:22:27.625+01:00I always thought that the difference is that the w...I always thought that the difference is that the word liquor is applied to the water after any adjustments have been made. Therefore where adjustment is the norm the different phrases are useful, where adjustment is never used its irrelevant.LiamTheBrewerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17343568963519802907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-84874024750007459192014-08-09T10:03:39.046+01:002014-08-09T10:03:39.046+01:00I think we need a new term. "Puppet" bre...I think we need a new term. "Puppet" brewery?StringersBeerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12573068197944669997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-5386872463413445192014-08-09T08:36:14.076+01:002014-08-09T08:36:14.076+01:00Great piece Dave. Very enjoyable account.Great piece Dave. Very enjoyable account.Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-5670947624266385732014-08-08T21:16:42.117+01:002014-08-08T21:16:42.117+01:00The question of 'what is craft beer' was a...The question of 'what is craft beer' was <a href="http://edsbeer.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/time-for-working-craft-beer-definition.html" rel="nofollow">answered definitively last year</a> ;-)Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13844169940650659196noreply@blogger.com