tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post6608946490691154958..comments2024-03-09T04:57:25.956+00:00Comments on HardKnott Dave's blog about stuff: Guide meAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11319272987951077205noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-4228252144211251902009-01-18T22:45:00.000+00:002009-01-18T22:45:00.000+00:00I think our branch is suggesting that consulting t...I think our branch is suggesting that consulting the National Beer Scoring System would help. The advantage of this is that some notice would be taken of people who have travelled into the area.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11319272987951077205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-20928154359484356992009-01-18T20:18:00.000+00:002009-01-18T20:18:00.000+00:00The branch I was Chairman of for a while had a lim...The branch I was Chairman of for a while had a limited number of pubs to place. Only the activists turned up at the nomination meeting and they voted for their favorite pubs by and large. I would like to see the National Beer Scoring system play some part so that more members can take part.NeilChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13349234534678604553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-71072093186060011602009-01-09T11:32:00.000+00:002009-01-09T11:32:00.000+00:00Thanks all for your comments.The main thing I'd li...Thanks all for your comments.<BR/><BR/>The main thing I'd like to clarify is that I do not think tied houses should be excluded. In fact there are tied houses that have access to reasonable lists and use them. Good Marsdons pubs being an example.<BR/><BR/>I think Dubbel sums it up nicely. Choice is important. And I like Sneck Lifter too.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11319272987951077205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-73442618190438192282009-01-09T10:53:00.000+00:002009-01-09T10:53:00.000+00:00From personal experience, the vast majority of pub...From personal experience, the vast majority of pubs in and around Burton/Warwickshire/West Leicestershire are Marston's houses and Jennings ales are available in many of them. Sometimes up to three or four from the Jennings range are on alongside the other Marston's stablemates. <BR/><BR/>I'm not complaining as I'd choose a Sneck Lifter over Pedigree any day.<BR/><BR/>My opinion is that pubs with a wider and more varied ale selection are more deserving of a GBG entry, as this is what lures me into (and to return to) a pub.Dubbelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06035458276989843392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-25133076919923942612009-01-09T10:40:00.000+00:002009-01-09T10:40:00.000+00:00I can only say what happens in my branch. We give ...I can only say what happens in my branch. We give every member the opportunity to both nominate pubs and vote on them. We take into account what people say about competing pubs and ensure as much as we can than tactical voting has no chance of succeeding, You must remember that CAMRA people are all individuals with their own requirements both for what makes good beer and for what makes a good pub. As Chairman, I have no more influence than the next man, other than what limited powers of persuasion I may have while speaking for or against a particular pub. Others are just as passionate of course. We do take only one geographical aspect into account. We split the voting by pre allocated numbers (determined by the number of pubs in each area)to our 3 metropolitan areas, Rochdale, Oldham and Bury.<BR/><BR/>It isn't perfect and we continually seek to improve it. Oh and I don't agree that pubs that sell one brewer's beer should be excluded. That would be perverse, but of course they have to be good at it to compete with a fre house. For us it is always about good beer.Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-17344180350951603442009-01-09T10:37:00.000+00:002009-01-09T10:37:00.000+00:00I can get draught Jennings beers from a coupel of ...I can get draught Jennings beers from a coupel of places I know in London that get them in on rotation as guest beers. One of these being a Fuller's tied house! You can also get their beers from any Waitrose in the country. Your local branch of CAMRA is naive. My hats of to you Dave for trying to make a difference.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11979252489432311435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-44635674147312957172009-01-09T06:19:00.000+00:002009-01-09T06:19:00.000+00:00Ale Fan - being concerned at losing a number of en...Ale Fan - being concerned at losing a number of entries for subsequent years almost smacks of a Stalinesque five year plan! Or perhaps they are worried that if they don't fill their allotted slots they will be sent to the corner with a dunce's cap on for failing to promote the cause of real ale?!<BR/><BR/>I tried to use the CAMRA pubs database when looking for a decent place for a pint in Ashford over the Christmas hols, assuming that it would be fairly selective. The nearest listed pub, so I was told, really kept its beers well. Hmm, if that means GK IPA tasting like rubber underlay then GK can keep it. The pint of boring old Guinness was much nicer.Alistair Reecehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15929927359428659775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-12896376098419591872009-01-09T02:27:00.000+00:002009-01-09T02:27:00.000+00:00Decent people? Maybe, but with a lack of social gr...Decent people? Maybe, but with a lack of social grace. I've had all sorts of run ins with them. From my experience, none of them had any beer knowledge other than what was available in their local pub. To them, all lager is shit, because it's fizzy. You yanks can't brew, yada, yada, yada. You have to admit, the stereotype of a CAMRA member is not a good one. I'm sure some are nice people, but they have failed as ambassadors to the beers I love.Whorsthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01784943453195129865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-86069100873651396472009-01-09T00:50:00.000+00:002009-01-09T00:50:00.000+00:00Wurst,I don't know about CAMRA being bizarre as su...Wurst,<BR/><BR/>I don't know about CAMRA being bizarre as such. There are some interesting views that I don't always agree with. The only thing is, it's an organization that has 90,000+ people who all like ale. They might not collectively get it right all the time, but they are decent people.<BR/><BR/>Ale Fan,<BR/><BR/>Funny enough I have not had either GK IPA or Woodfords Wherry so as such I might agree, unless I find them crap when I do try them. However, my point is that although half a dozen mediocre beers deserves no recognition, half a dozen fantastic obscure beers wins over a poor selection of commonly available beers every time.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11319272987951077205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-16363640885082090702009-01-08T23:02:00.000+00:002009-01-08T23:02:00.000+00:00I sat in on a GBG 'selection' meeting a while back...I sat in on a GBG 'selection' meeting a while back and found it crazy that each branch seems to be alloted a number of pubs they can submit and the concern was that if they didn't submit enough they would lose entries in subsequent years. There were a couple of pubs that probably shouldn't have been submitted.<BR/><BR/>The brand of ale sold shouldn't influence the choices either. Give me a good GK IPA or Woodfordes Wherry over half a dozen obscure mediocre quality ales anyday.<BR/><BR/>Geography or choice should not influence the entries!Paul Garrardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06393405914271508860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-1490680129793253162009-01-08T21:30:00.000+00:002009-01-08T21:30:00.000+00:00You need to speak with the guvnor who runs the oth...You need to speak with the guvnor who runs the other pub. My guess is it's political. CAMRA is so bizarre on so many fronts, it could be anything really.Whorsthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01784943453195129865noreply@blogger.com