tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post5946509109878567999..comments2024-03-09T04:57:25.956+00:00Comments on HardKnott Dave's blog about stuff: Why beer CAN be the new wineAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11319272987951077205noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-71913057233151659282010-02-20T00:20:32.642+00:002010-02-20T00:20:32.642+00:00>I think a lot of sales are being lost because ...>I think a lot of sales are being lost because restaurants still don't offer enough of it. <br /><br />Very true and we (East Cheshire CAMRA) are considering something (not sure what yet) to try and get more restaurants to carry more real ale, in a bottle for starters. I've just spent a lovely evening in the Windmill, Whiteley Green (http://www.whatpub.org/Guide/000000/Pub000189.htm if I'm allowed a plug) - the decription is a little out of date mainly because they now always have a local Storm Brewing Beer on the bar. Okay, so only maybe a couple of us in the restaurant drinking it but it's a welcome addition.<br /><br />Cheers, Rob.Rob Nicholsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14871887147718814739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-12219077702568511522010-02-15T09:16:52.285+00:002010-02-15T09:16:52.285+00:00Good points. Whilst there might be a change happen...Good points. Whilst there might be a change happening, I personally can never see beer being viewed on the same level as wine.<br /><br />It's just too ingrained in people that wine is a sophisticated option, whilst beer is for blokes. The balance might swing a bit, but craft beer will always be for the niche market.<br /><br />I hope I'm wrong, but the reaction I get from mates for drinking halves, drinking beer from a wine glass or even smelling a beer before drinking it, tells me that I'm not.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.beerbirrabier.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Chunk.</a>Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09280318504737098116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-64672580147726032072010-02-14T11:00:05.037+00:002010-02-14T11:00:05.037+00:00Eddie, now I've woken up.....
Try James Clay ...Eddie, now I've woken up.....<br /><br />Try <a href="http://www.jamesclay.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">James Clay and Sons</a> who are supposed to have a national network of wholesalers. Personally I think there are some gaps in their service but that is where we currently get ours specialist beers from.<br /><br />However I'm looking at <a href="http://www.beermerchants.com/" rel="nofollow">Cave Direct</a> who I think might use couriers to deliver.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11319272987951077205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-87408347563621039662010-02-14T10:06:25.512+00:002010-02-14T10:06:25.512+00:00Eddie, I'm hoping I will be able to help there...Eddie, I'm hoping I will be able to help there in the future....... <br /><br />Yes indeed, there is change on the way, I'm sure.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11319272987951077205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-73130100455864024832010-02-14T02:25:55.528+00:002010-02-14T02:25:55.528+00:00It was nice tonight to have a table in the restaur...It was nice tonight to have a table in the restaurant part of the pub, that when offered the wine list asked for the beer menu instead. I've offered it before, and had it accepted, but never been asked for it. Perhaps change is on the way...<br /><br />If anyone knows of a good wholesaler of speciality beers delivering to the welsh coast give me a nudge please.Eddie86https://www.blogger.com/profile/03552007546467495543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-68925114489622949912010-02-13T17:12:51.467+00:002010-02-13T17:12:51.467+00:00sounds like the perfect wedding drink menu to me, ...sounds like the perfect wedding drink menu to me, i think emily would go for that ...not sure certain members of our families would tho...BeerReviewsAndyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13549567405003804994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-11679058927208628982010-02-13T16:55:26.837+00:002010-02-13T16:55:26.837+00:00Ed, yes indeed. I love food, rather too much, and ...Ed, yes indeed. I love food, rather too much, and it is quite distressing to have eaten too much and have insufficient room for beer.<br /><br />Adrian, I couldn't agree more. Wine has an equal place on the table for me. I would be crazy to not offer my guests a good wine selection.<br /><br />I also like wine but sadly the wines I like are more expensive than beer. A good job we have beer then eh?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11319272987951077205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-18568702712780748752010-02-13T16:38:55.042+00:002010-02-13T16:38:55.042+00:00Dave
I remember when I did the Big Book of Beer in...Dave<br />I remember when I did the Big Book of Beer in 2005 I was foolish enough to do the whole beer is the new wine schtick and feel very embarrassed about it now — beer is beer, wine is wine, and beer should be on equal terms on the table with wine rather than trying to elbow it out, people like Mark Dorber, Rupert Ponsonby of Garratt Oliver can suggest either wine or beer choices, which is what it boils down to — giving people choice, but then you move onto the whole ‘do we have beer choice’, which we palpably don’t, but then that is campaigning which others like yourself do miles better than me.Adrian Tierney-Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05421802854011395300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-29648693551664286892010-02-13T16:07:50.444+00:002010-02-13T16:07:50.444+00:00Nice one getting the Mallory quote in! I always dr...Nice one getting the Mallory quote in! I always drink beer with 'special occasion' meals as I'm a beer nerd. But generally I prefer not to linger over a meal sipping drinks. I like to scoff my food and then get on with the serious business of drinking - preferably cask beer by the pint.Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13844169940650659196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-47696390660765865212010-02-13T15:47:07.523+00:002010-02-13T15:47:07.523+00:00Lew, I absolutely agree that restaurants are a hug...Lew, I absolutely agree that restaurants are a huge gap in the craft beer market. One I hope to start plugging before long.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11319272987951077205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-19577536886298938652010-02-13T15:43:54.375+00:002010-02-13T15:43:54.375+00:00I'm not actually "in the business," ...I'm not actually "in the business," so I'm always wary of making statements like this, but...I believe that the main thing holding back an even bigger growth in "craft" beer (still need a better term) is a lack of availability. I think a lot of sales are being lost because restaurants still don't offer enough of it. You're on to something. <br />And I like the "irreverence it deserves" line, too: leave it just the way it is!Lew Brysonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04084380741402026573noreply@blogger.com