tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post1555966033286902618..comments2024-03-09T04:57:25.956+00:00Comments on HardKnott Dave's blog about stuff: Session BeerAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11319272987951077205noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-2041658503407073022010-08-25T12:47:55.617+01:002010-08-25T12:47:55.617+01:00Did Hidden in Wiltshire do their "Pint" ...Did <b>Hidden</b> in Wiltshire do their <i><b>"Pint"</b></i> first? And <i><b>"Session"</b></i> has been done loads of times... <br /><br />There's only so many words in the language, and only so much space on a pump clip, so I guess there's a finite number of names for beer. I suppose we shouldn't be too precious about them - unless we're going to trademark them - I can't see that working for "Pint" or "Session" tho'StringersBeerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12573068197944669997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-20500739595138690432010-08-24T08:18:53.047+01:002010-08-24T08:18:53.047+01:00Al, I think the main USP of a pub is conviviality....Al, I think the main USP of a pub is conviviality. It is true that draft beer is also one but many people who go to The Pub drink whisky or wine or indeed Becks, Bud or some other single serve bottled product.<br /><br />Eddie, you are doing exactly the right thing, one of these days I'll get my beer to you.<br /><br />Peter, "Session" good idea, I might use that. It's a bit like the Marble "Pint" idea.<br /><br />Peter and Leigh, balance and flavour, that's what makes a truly great session beer, I agree.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11319272987951077205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-63239405562758143762010-08-23T17:04:06.533+01:002010-08-23T17:04:06.533+01:00..and session beer doesn't have to be on the t.....and session beer doesn't have to be on the tamer side of flavour, either.Leighhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05512660051158275112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-55730179620413404262010-08-23T16:28:11.103+01:002010-08-23T16:28:11.103+01:00I completely agree that session beer is a good thi...I completely agree that session beer is a good thing- it's the core of a business and the core of what most people drink. I agree with Andy, in that the problem is they tend to be BBB. At the end of the day, a strong beer has something that a lot of beers can't quite achieve. But that doesn't mean that if a beer isn't strong, it can't be well hopped, flavoured, straw, or ruby- wheaty and almost ghostly, or dark like the night sky.<br /><br />A session beer needs balance, first quench and can't be too strong. As long as it's balanced, that's fine. Problem is balance does not equal boring. The problem is, many equate the two together.<br /><br />About time someone brews a funky session, calls it "session", and see if people get the clue! :PPeter O'Connorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14006691271352681225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-25729116253452060912010-08-23T15:58:13.466+01:002010-08-23T15:58:13.466+01:00I think the biggest thing that affects you selling...I think the biggest thing that affects you selling the 'more interesting' beers on draft is distribution. There appears to be a growing number of pubs selling a wide range of casks, and it would be getting your beer to these places that needs doing. For example I use LWC to source different beers - whilst local and Welsh brewers that we mainly sell produce some great ales, occasionally I find myself offering 6 handpumps of 3.7%-4.6% ale. Being able to offer a weissbier/barley wine/hop bomb to mix up the options is a huge benefit to me.<br /><br />Especially as the pub is developing, I'm finding the customers are 'coming with us' if you'll excuse the marketing speak. So now most of the regulars who just drink Butty Bach are having a pint of something different now and again. Putting Brooklyn on the other day saw it nearly being the only lager sold for the day. <br /><br />A blog post is needed I think...Eddie86https://www.blogger.com/profile/03552007546467495543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-56421544390981513132010-08-23T13:51:26.206+01:002010-08-23T13:51:26.206+01:00"There is also the fact that it would not tak..."There is also the fact that it would not take much for a pub to stock the odd bottle of something a little more interesting."<br /><br />That's true, but surely one of the unique selling points of going to the pub is draught beer itself rather than bottled beer?<br /><br />Having said that, if I were a publican, most of my bottled range would be the weird and wonderful rather than the kind of beers people can get at their local off license to take home.Alistair Reecehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15929927359428659775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-78390680320591225662010-08-23T08:53:47.486+01:002010-08-23T08:53:47.486+01:00Al, there are two sides to the beer geek going to ...Al, there are two sides to the beer geek going to pubs; clearly they should and I know many that do. There is also the fact that it would not take much for a pub to stock the odd bottle of something a little more interesting.<br /><br />BUL180, that's the point of good session beer, nice enough to just sit back and relax.<br /><br />Sid, you are right of course, my market is broadly split into two. Cask is doing well and that is still where my volume is. Bottling is still in it's infancy due to us needing way more investment and better distribution logistics.<br /><br />Andy, my session beers are tasty, guilty as charged.<br /><br />BUL180, I agree. There are many beers put into bottle that would just be better off left as the cask version, but there is a demand just the same, so if the brewer can sell it, good luck to him.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11319272987951077205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-42757374076578155772010-08-23T08:44:29.566+01:002010-08-23T08:44:29.566+01:00Oh, and while I'm still up at 12:38 AM in fron...Oh, and while I'm still up at 12:38 AM in front of a computer, I thought of something more to say. This is not necessarily a good thing, but my fingers are still open to the notion of pressing little black squares with letters on them. The owner of one of my favorite local breweries recently posed a question that has been haunting and intriguing me lately. He said, "Why put something in a bottle that doesn't benefit from being in a bottle?" Sounds like a blog post in the works.Brewers Union Local 180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05786517873195170945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-8943555052176021952010-08-23T08:41:06.256+01:002010-08-23T08:41:06.256+01:00I think it's all down to the beer, there are s...I think it's all down to the beer, there are some great session beers out there but most pubs tend to stick to BBB becuase that seems to be what sells and what is available locally. <br /><br />Like scoop said your light cascade rocks and thats most definatley a session beer I also had a nottle of hole hearted from oakleaf which was packed full of cascade and would have made an excellent session beer despite its really crap label.BeerReviewsAndyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13549567405003804994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-26496527916228069962010-08-23T08:14:47.942+01:002010-08-23T08:14:47.942+01:00Interesting thoughts there, Dave. Aren't you a...Interesting thoughts there, Dave. Aren't you already putting your challenging beers in the way of receptive drinkers by bottling them?<br /><br />I suppose if you let the thinking run on a bit, you get to considering the right environment to match the offer to the audience. So your local isn't likely to become a hotbed of craft exploration any time soon, but will the market eventually compel something like that in your area? If Cumbria suddenly decides it wants Sierra Nevada, will the market work to fill the demand?<br /><br />Hmmm...Sid Bogglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07452473947039475736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-49168143804776896522010-08-23T07:53:35.994+01:002010-08-23T07:53:35.994+01:00I love it when BeerAdvocate posts a review of my b...I love it when BeerAdvocate posts a review of my beer. The notion that cask X on day Y of batch Z might be different from any other is lost to them. Just relax and have a pint.Brewers Union Local 180https://www.blogger.com/profile/05786517873195170945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-40350096681169927292010-08-22T23:38:57.894+01:002010-08-22T23:38:57.894+01:00I think session beer gets a bad rap in the beer &q...I think session beer gets a bad rap in the beer "geek" world simply because a lot of beer geeks are not drinkers, in the sense that their natural drinking location is their front room rather than the pub.<br /><br />I wonder if the standard of "session" beer or "boring brown bitter" mythology would improve if more of the RateBeer and BeerAdvocate would get away from the computer and into the pub?Alistair Reecehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15929927359428659775noreply@blogger.com