tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post7383643246440294788..comments2024-03-09T04:57:25.956+00:00Comments on HardKnott Dave's blog about stuff: Old Dog, New TricksAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11319272987951077205noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-50197062520225455872009-08-15T16:48:14.964+01:002009-08-15T16:48:14.964+01:00Melissa's post just for completeness.<a href="http://girlsguidetobeer.blogspot.com/2009/08/looking-glass.html" rel="nofollow">Melissa's post</a> just for completeness.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11319272987951077205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-65857892014724834762009-08-15T15:54:38.758+01:002009-08-15T15:54:38.758+01:00@Mark - if you ever want your driver to have a day...@Mark - if you ever want your driver to have a day off I'll make a more concerted effort! I wasn't aware I was supposed to be crusading, my apologies (may have been a little 'tired & emotional' at the time too!)<br /><br />@Rob - very kind thank you very much, I never thought I'd be a living leg-end!<br /><br />Just written a post about this as someone else is showing some scepticism about the role of good-looking glassware and I've had some thoughts (doesn't happen often, need to get them down on 'paper' when it does!).Melissa Colehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13701889299756506857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-37876762633854736202009-08-13T08:33:42.136+01:002009-08-13T08:33:42.136+01:00Erlangernick, half litre or pint. They don't d...Erlangernick, half litre or pint. They don't do litres in Thüringen.Ron Pattinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-16281831157185439812009-08-13T08:27:47.749+01:002009-08-13T08:27:47.749+01:00But Ron, does your Frau drink a proper Maß (litre)...But Ron, does your Frau drink a proper Maß (litre), or some smaller Thuringian quantity?Erlangernickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09564871714656285737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-5513789137262665902009-08-12T12:00:39.316+01:002009-08-12T12:00:39.316+01:00Barm said: 'And the less said about the awful ...Barm said: 'And the less said about the awful stemmed Stella pint glass the better.'<br /><br />I will say more, in agreement - no point in a stemmed glass if you can't hold it by the bloody stem. Stubby little bugger.<br /><br />I'm with Tandleman - better glassware per se would be terrific. I was in a Kerala restaurant (Rice Boat, Cambridge) the other day that has a solid range of bottled Thornbridge and Meantime beers - they had proper, quite tall, big volume stemmed glasses. Very elegant and perfectly formed. Nice work.John Westhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15471796457374078158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-66216361531558577412009-08-12T07:59:37.121+01:002009-08-12T07:59:37.121+01:00I'm sure it's cultural reasons that put wo...I'm sure it's cultural reasons that put women off beer in the UK. My wife's German and thinks drinking beer is a totally normal thing for women to do.Ron Pattinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095189986589865751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-20192769497159428692009-08-12T00:11:22.977+01:002009-08-12T00:11:22.977+01:00I've said before that the tired, scratched old...I've said before that the tired, scratched old nonic is a classic drinking vessel. It's like a leather jacket that develops character as it gets older and worn. That doesn't mean it's suitable for every single occasion. <br /><br />What pint glass is better than a nonic? Surely not the hideous Shaker-style pint glasses that are displacing them? They're an abomination; they have no curves, no form, no style. And the less said about the awful stemmed Stella pint glass the better.Rob Sterowskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07870233673933087794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-49654639375542519212009-08-11T23:25:28.313+01:002009-08-11T23:25:28.313+01:00"tired scratched old nonic"
Buy or ask f..."tired scratched old nonic"<br />Buy or ask for a new one! Famed British beer writer, Michael Jackson was a big advocate of the pint glass. If it's good enough for him, it's good enough for me. Shit, the way this is going, everyone will be be wearing a 3 ounce wine glass around their neck. Real People, Real Beer, Real Stemware! There ya go, APRK's first campaign!Whorsthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01784943453195129865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-4613675320132487272009-08-11T23:14:11.079+01:002009-08-11T23:14:11.079+01:00Plenty women drink beer and there isn't a fanc...Plenty women drink beer and there isn't a fancy philosophy behind it for most. They just like it I'd say.Glassware is important though and not just for women. I have campaigned on my blog to retire the tired scratched old nonic for example.<br /><br />I do find too much of this "poor little lady she doesn't understand beer" stuff insulting and misogynist. I think Impy has the right of it here.<br /><br />I'm trying to persuade my lass (a beer drinker) to write a piece on the subject. She's thinking about it.Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-7614245335652994032009-08-11T22:49:19.641+01:002009-08-11T22:49:19.641+01:00I should add that I have nothing against nice glas...I should add that I have nothing against nice glassware, I just don't think it's the decisive factor as some other people seem to. Neither do tackily screen-printed glasses covered with lurid logos pass as nice glassware in my book. Let's have nice, plain, well-designed, stemmed thirds and two-thirds.Rob Sterowskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07870233673933087794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-74432299132053869002009-08-11T20:42:08.746+01:002009-08-11T20:42:08.746+01:00Thanks for the link, Dave. I think Barm has a poi...Thanks for the link, Dave. I think Barm has a point. In the US my friends were brewers and I drank what they were drinking. <br /><br />I think this archaic idea of beer not being feminine might beincreasingly outmoded-- English "roses" only drink white wine? But I've seen it with my own eyes! It makes no sense. <br /><br />On the West Coast of the US, many women are involved in drinking and brewing, I'm convinced a lot of this has to do with successful marketing and an idea that good, "indie" beer is new and hip-- there's more room for women to get involved. <br /><br />It sounds like Ann and I share similar tastes which means I need to get some Tokyo!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-56900283967283881922009-08-11T20:21:54.409+01:002009-08-11T20:21:54.409+01:00My wife to be wouldnt touch beer before we were to...My wife to be wouldnt touch beer before we were together a few years, now shes into stouts, golden ales, some IPA's and various fruit beers. Most women that say they dont like beer actually will like right beer for them, they just dont know it. Melissa Cole is a legend of education in this field.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15686907092077149244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-84792367010517128862009-08-11T15:41:11.655+01:002009-08-11T15:41:11.655+01:00Pint for the fella. White wine/fruit based drink f...Pint for the fella. White wine/fruit based drink for the lady. Rules is rules. Thank you Al Murray.<br /><br />I think the glasswear is relevant. A pint is considered calorific, halves are more appealing to the lasses, but half glasses are by and large naff.<br /><br />Stemmed half glasses would make half a beer a attractive drink.<br /><br />When you see lasses having a beer, it's often a bud or small bottle. As much the look, than anything. Better glasswear makes the halfs more appealing.Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-23161220359194865932009-08-11T15:25:57.894+01:002009-08-11T15:25:57.894+01:00I have no problem drinking from a brandy snifter, ...I have no problem drinking from a brandy snifter, or regular wine glass for high octane beers. It's the pretension that comes with pouring everything into that over-sized wine glass. My nose is quite alright. I have to problem smelling the lush aromatics of various brews in a pint glass.Whorsthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01784943453195129865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-56529536014591400682009-08-11T15:03:31.380+01:002009-08-11T15:03:31.380+01:00Mark,
Yeh, most of the time Ann drives. It's ...Mark,<br /><br />Yeh, most of the time Ann drives. It's great. She really doesn't drink much of anything, I suspect she has a camel as a distant relative.<br /><br />Barm,<br /><br />No, I didn't enjoy my first pint - it's a good point you make.<br /><br />I'm not convinced that the glassware is a complete red herring. There is an increasing number of women who reject the need to avoid pints due to it ruining their femininity, and this is good. Lets hope it becomes more the norm.<br /><br />However, there are still women who would like to retain a glamorous look and this is perceived to be spoilt by regular British beer glassware. This seems to be more prevalent with people in my age group.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11319272987951077205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-37985840807280106482009-08-11T14:31:09.339+01:002009-08-11T14:31:09.339+01:00I think there are two main factors. Familiarity an...I think there are two main factors. Familiarity and peer pressure. Most of us want to drink what our mates are drinking. As long as not many women drink beer, not many will be interested in trying it. There's nothing inherently masculine about the taste of beer. Loads of men don't like the taste of Stella much but drink it anyway because it's "what blokes drink".<br /><br />Also, beer, especially bitter beer, is an acquired taste and women are less likely than men to have gone through the process of acquiring it. Did you enjoy your first pint? I didn't.<br /><br />I think the glassware issue is a red herring. You see plenty of women supping pints of Magners.Rob Sterowskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07870233673933087794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-12757534312177144962009-08-11T13:13:36.841+01:002009-08-11T13:13:36.841+01:00My girlfriend won't touch beer despite being s...My girlfriend won't touch beer despite being surrounded by it constantly!! I even left her in the pub with Melissa Cole for 10 minutes to see if she could work her lady charms but it didn't work. At least it means I've always got a driver :)<br /><br />I think image is a big thing plus the fact that pints are fairly masculine objects - use wine glasses and it changes into something more familiar. <br /><br />And your extreme dessert sounds amazing - perfect for extreme beer!Mark Dredgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11421095862178324693noreply@blogger.com