tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post4600014606506209735..comments2024-03-09T04:57:25.956+00:00Comments on HardKnott Dave's blog about stuff: The Faux HandpullAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11319272987951077205noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-11665568375516076272014-08-07T21:54:09.307+01:002014-08-07T21:54:09.307+01:00"Next time I open a bar I think I'll put ..."Next time I open a bar I think I'll put in some handpulls and use them to serve keg beer."<br /><br />Yep, seen this in Australia... :) I was all "wow, you've got handpumps!" Barman was sheepishly honest: "it's connected to a keg under light pressure". It was a real handpump though... as opposed to...<br /><br />Funny you should be writing about this, a couple of days ago I noticed something in a video that I saw a fair bit of in NZ. The "fake" handpump. The video reveals all at 32 seconds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gApybzqbepU <br /><br />Now *that* is a "faux handpull" :)<br /><br />These guys are known for their "British style" beer by the way. Then again in NZ the only British beer I saw was bloody Greene King IPA and Fuller's London Pride on keg... really. Oh, and BrewDog. I stuck the the local product.Yvannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-16182226733996525862014-08-05T17:38:35.572+01:002014-08-05T17:38:35.572+01:00... How about a stout tap? Sort of used in reverse...... How about a stout tap? Sort of used in reverse. You'd get a cracking head.StringersBeerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12573068197944669997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-31372064428304855312014-08-05T13:58:16.275+01:002014-08-05T13:58:16.275+01:00The issue of sparklers is where your whole theory ...The issue of sparklers is where your whole theory collapses. Having accepted that they don't really suit taps-which they don't-and since everyone knows that sparklers improve beer; the hamdpull reigns supreme. Sat In A Pubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08123038980796000837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-14430726386023259392014-08-05T12:38:55.001+01:002014-08-05T12:38:55.001+01:00@cookie, isn't the handpull just that sign?@cookie, isn't the handpull just that sign?StringersBeerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12573068197944669997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-54111723426345194782014-08-05T11:29:16.520+01:002014-08-05T11:29:16.520+01:00All I want is sign saying "beard club approve...All I want is sign saying "beard club approved" and I'll neck it.Cooking Lagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02830924433230427226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-15752357645039058832014-08-05T11:01:11.126+01:002014-08-05T11:01:11.126+01:00@Dave, not at all. It's an interesting post. ...@Dave, not at all. It's an interesting post. But you know as well as anyone that window-dressing is at least as important as any inherent quality of the goods. It's why we spend so much time and effort of PR & showing our faces, innit? StringersBeerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12573068197944669997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-36152124411003742932014-08-05T10:22:35.556+01:002014-08-05T10:22:35.556+01:00Well they do it at the Euston Tap. It isn't v...Well they do it at the Euston Tap. It isn't very effective though, so that'll suit Jeff. But they do keep their beer well there, which suits everyone I assume.Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-43864245264752115652014-08-05T09:20:03.214+01:002014-08-05T09:20:03.214+01:00Stringers, I'm confused. Are you saying I'...Stringers, I'm confused. Are you saying I'm wrong to discuss this subject?<br /><br />Tandy, am I joking? I guess I wrote it as a joke. Would I do it? Probably, for a laugh.<br /><br />I agree that the level of CO2 in the beer is very important. I don't feel it is important as to where it comes from.<br /><br />Jeff, and I thought Tandy would be the one to point out that sparklers are not so easy to put on a tap.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11319272987951077205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-5502177471278302442014-08-05T09:04:40.250+01:002014-08-05T09:04:40.250+01:00"More effort goes into making sure that the c..."More effort goes into making sure that the customer perception of good beer is maintained rather than actually ensuring the beer is good."<br /><br />--Like sparklers. Jeff Pickthallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06343140031285101096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-48254852662291109292014-08-05T09:00:33.526+01:002014-08-05T09:00:33.526+01:00"Next time I open a bar I think I'll put ..."Next time I open a bar I think I'll put in some handpulls and use them to serve keg beer."<br /><br />That would be provocative, perverse and counter productive Dave, but I like to think you are joking.<br /><br />While the handpull is synonymous with cask beer, very few I suspect, even amongst cask drinkers, assume it automatically means good beer.<br /><br />And worrying about CO2 in beer goes with the territory if you are a beer drinker. Too much, too little? Indeed a matter for discussion. <br /><br />Nor can I see any advantage from the customer point of view in blurring the lines between cask and keg. It would only lead to confusion and uncertainty and would contribute to the smoke and mirrors you are concerned about.Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-77868331776533162182014-08-05T08:53:24.587+01:002014-08-05T08:53:24.587+01:00"More effort goes into [...] the customer per...<i>"More effort goes into [...] the customer perception of good beer"</i> Well, duh, yes. Welcome to the business of show.StringersBeerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12573068197944669997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-50332878886919809572014-08-05T08:31:17.434+01:002014-08-05T08:31:17.434+01:00Not quite Stringers, most of those who drink cask ...Not quite Stringers, most of those who drink cask beer like to see them. The vast majority of beer sold in the on trade still comes out of things that are not handpulls. One would have to argue that most beer drinkers don't actually care about them.<br /><br />It is frustrating that there is this false assertion that beer from anything other than that which might be considered true "real ale" is somehow flawed. This myth is helped in its propagation by many smoke and mirror tricks. The faux handpull is one such trick.<br /><br />More effort goes into making sure that the customer perception of good beer is maintained rather than actually ensuring the beer is good.<br /><br />Worrying about extraneous CO2, I believe, actually detracts from good beer.<br /><br />Next time I open a bar I think I'll put in some handpulls and use them to serve keg beer.<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11319272987951077205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-18190234157778515852014-08-04T22:12:56.118+01:002014-08-04T22:12:56.118+01:00Well, yes, but people like to see handpulls.Well, yes, but people like to see handpulls.StringersBeerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12573068197944669997noreply@blogger.com