tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post217703645440704113..comments2024-03-09T04:57:25.956+00:00Comments on HardKnott Dave's blog about stuff: Pondering the Pub Thing AgainAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11319272987951077205noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-5176369481098303082015-08-20T09:47:48.883+01:002015-08-20T09:47:48.883+01:00I've been experiencing this committee thing re...I've been experiencing this committee thing recently in a co-operative brewery start-up I'm involved with. In my experience, decisions by committee are pretty good on the whole. The downside is that it can be slow. Things that can be decided acted upon in five minutes are often delayed by needing to be discussed formally and minuted at a committee meeting - which occur every two or three weeks. Jeff Pickthallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06343140031285101096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-6816183476175170752015-08-13T09:28:13.036+01:002015-08-13T09:28:13.036+01:00"Democracy. Everyone gets what nobody wants&q..."Democracy. Everyone gets what nobody wants". Barry I think said that Jeffers.Tandlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804499573827044693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-52720923153642719702015-08-13T01:14:48.879+01:002015-08-13T01:14:48.879+01:00Arguments about colour schemes? See Auf Weidersehe...Arguments about colour schemes? See Auf Weidersehen Pet Series 1, when Barry makes the lads all vote using AV.<br /><br />PS. JeffrEy, you divStonchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07001578598975666535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-66699883158466565642015-08-12T08:58:09.125+01:002015-08-12T08:58:09.125+01:00Mudgie,
I get your points. Indeed, I would hope t...Mudgie,<br /><br />I get your points. Indeed, I would hope that a group with the interest of making something work would realise that ideals wanted from the view of a pub customer sometimes are not achievable. For instance, making it busy with visitors, doing food, having music nights and other things that I know some pubs do, and helps drag in punters, but sometimes pisses off the regular drinker.<br /><br />But, design by committee is indeed the biggest problem. A strong leader is needed, and that is often a problem with volunteers.<br /><br />Jeffry,<br /><br />I think it can work, but it does need a hardcore of commitment, and broader support.<br /><br />As an example, many public buildings that are run by communities survive because there is a collective interest to make them survive. For example, I'm vaguely involved with a theatre in our town. It's been various things including a cinema. Currently it is in the hands of some enthusiastic trustees. Commercially it just shouldn't work. It's a big building that is underused. But due to people willingly giving up time to make it work, it manages to just about keep afloat.<br /><br />A community run pub is much more likely to get maintenance jobs done by capable volunteers when they reslise they can't afford to pay a decorator, for instance.<br /><br />Although arguments about colour schemes are inevitable, I guess....Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11319272987951077205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-59061776579102350802015-08-12T05:34:36.881+01:002015-08-12T05:34:36.881+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Cherrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-30179843379354352172015-08-11T23:14:55.439+01:002015-08-11T23:14:55.439+01:00I've being doing some consultancy work for a g...I've being doing some consultancy work for a group seeking to purchase, restore and then run their own pub via a community interest company. if it progresses and they instruct me to oversee the rest of the project up to opening it again I'll report back and let you know how it went!<br /><br />I foresee many problems with the committee model, but many advantages too compared to what has gone before at the site in question: no investment from the freeholder (a pubco) and lessees with neither the capital nor the nous to make it work themselves.Stonchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07001578598975666535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2446074078505386356.post-67168230461082619462015-08-11T19:44:06.663+01:002015-08-11T19:44:06.663+01:00As the saying goes, "a camel is a horse desig...As the saying goes, "a camel is a horse designed by a committee".<br /><br />Of course it can work if the support is there, but if it starts making losses there's the potential for a massive bust-up.<br /><br />And most pubs need to attract at least some customers from outside their immediate community.Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02558747878308766840noreply@blogger.com